South Side Sox

http://www.southsidesox.com/2012/1/20/2721795/rrrr-hsaltp-sl-sltp#89384082

sista puhleeze

haHA! I saw that comment, but completely missed the link. It'll happen.

You were ON IT indeed. Nice.

So Chiburb just not show you how to use a toothbrush ever or what?

Do you not remember her candy stock?

Long story short: Flawless dental history for 22 years in Chicago. Moved here and neglected to see a dentist for four+ years. And ate lots of candy before bed in the meantime.

Had eleven total cavities…which means half of my teeth were in great shape, per the optimist!
But I’ve been much better and more diligent since. Taking care now. Regular cleanings and flossing and such.

I just found a bucket of halloween reese's cups unintentionally hidden in a stockpot

hooray bedtime candy

my roommate freshman year in college kept a can of frosting next to his bed.

that’s commitment.

and kinky.

DrEmilioLizardo - January 26, 2012 reply

frosting is Passe.

Wasabi is kinky.

you have 22 teeth?

shit, at least

obnoxious american - January 24, 2012 reply

wth, did anyone even list any excuses in the last one??

anyway, i hate pretty much everything. but what you listed makes me feel compelled to share something similar. people in the left turning lane, and especially the first one in line, when the arrow turns green, NEED TO TURN THEIR FUCKING CAR.

that’s the problem with people today. it isn’t stupidity, it obliviousness.

don't rule out stupidity.

that would be stupid.

obnoxious american - January 24, 2012 reply

it would.

I describe it as a lack of conscientiousness.

And it’s awful. Truly my biggest problem with people is those afflicted with it.

I cant stand people who dont 'read' the road while driving

there are very clear traffic patterns mother fuckers, pay attention! Then all you assholes wouldn’t have to mash on the brakes because the expressway makes a slight turn causing congestion.

there is no greater demonstration of the asshole description than the 15 south from vegas on a sunday afternoon.

fucking morons, it’s a slight curve or gradient!

flagged. did not read, but i've told you before

i don’t want to talk about the dentist.

you're supposed to start from the 5th paragraph where it says your name.

oh gosh. well, at least she remembered.

yet she went and did it anyway.

A woman's behavior right there.

But! I didn't even mention how in the two+ hours spent in the chair and the six teeth I needed drilled and the six shots I got to numb said teeth, only four were completed before "she" ran out of time

(probably because she was fucking with the dental dams for too long!); so now I have to go back in a few weeks and get more shots and more drilling.

And the shot to the nerve that I mentioned happened to be related to the teeth that didn’t get drilled after all. Gee thanks.

I’m taking my mouth-hole elsewhere after yesterday.

people that cannot walk properly. absolutely.

the worst people in edinburgh were always american. which confused me. they were curious enough to leave their own country, which is relatively rare amongst the yankee populace, but too ignorant to notice the rest of the world.

Third time trying to post this because SBN keeps telling me to fuck myself.

And I hate them, too. Been emailing them constantly (twice is constantly) about a username change and to no avail.

Anyway, I hate people that don’t know how to walk, too. You’ve got your people that a) stop unexpectedly, b) let their kids wander and flail about, c) walk 2-5 abreast so you can’t pass (level of hatred rises depending on width of passage) d) block escalators and moving sidewalks, e) walk as a phalanx (as described in c), but from the opposite direction, and still don’t attempt to make a hole, and f) just walk slowly in general.

While all are maddening, example b kills me the most. I’m a big, tall guy. My knee connecting with the face of a child would not be fun (at least not for the kid). One of the last things I would ever want to do is confront a distraught parent over their injured kid, regardless of fault. And yet it almost happens not-infrequently.

Shitty walkers should have to take remedial classes on the weekends when the sidewalks and concourses of this nation are less crowded.

The sidewalk on the bridge over the river on Adams street is the worst as far as walking people in the morning

if you are trying to head West, as all the foot traffic from Union Station heads East. Most of the time, the phalanx manges to leave one little lane for West traffic, but there are always assholes who try to break into that lane to go faster. And that’s when they run into me. Cause I don’t move, stop, or try to get out of their way. Last Summer I ended up knocking down a guy who had his head down looking at his phone who decided he was gonna cut into the lane, and just ran right into me. He was pissed, but eh, look where the fuck you are going buddy.

Then there are the assholes with umbrellas. Since I’m a tall guy as well, I’ve damn nearly had my eyes poked out so many times by those fucking things. I’ve gotten to the point where I just keep my arm in front of my head, and knock away any that get close. I like my stereo vision, Umbrella jerks.

Masses of people don't bother me as much.

There’s not much they can do; a lot of people need to go in one direction, fine. I’m more concerned with the five friends or the family from Bumblefuck, NE that have never used a sidewalk before. Five abreast? That’s not even convenient for them. If you have five people at a bar, you sit at a table.

I feel like our group walked in twos when I visited you over Thanksgiving.

Go us.

Yeah, turns out we're not morons.

x

No umbrellas either!

GENIUSES.

jack and UG drifting left?

effin kids.

Me being trusted at the lead?

On that day?

turns out rain delays are fantastic for drinkery

whoda thunk?

That and the mystery cooler.

yup. everyone needs a mystery cooler in their lives.

Not anymore.

Fucker moved outta the neighborhood!

Marriage ruins everything!

2ndHalfAdjustments - January 28, 2012 reply

Does it?

legend!

Jack M - January 24, 2012 reply

this too

fuckin buttheads staring into their goddamn cellphone not looking where the hell they’re going. i loved that news story about that dumbass woman was gaping at her worthless phone and fell into the mall fountain, then had the insolence to complain when no one came to help her. protip: it’s because you deserved to drown.

obnoxious american - January 25, 2012 reply

a group taking up the whole of the pavement without making space for people moving in the opposite direction is the worst.

also, yes, the fuckers on the moving sidewalks that stand next to each other. fine, you don’t want to walk, you’re in no hurry. well i fucking am.

I take the DC aproach to that shit. If you are standing on the left, you will get yelled at.

See, this is why I need an air horn.

This

would be awesome.

LockportSox - January 25, 2012 reply

like anyone would want to R you.

colintj - January 25, 2012 reply

calm down.

this is important stuff here, man.

I constantly encounter people in the office who gather to talk at the end/beginning of stairwells, blocking anyone from getting by easily. This behavior should be punishable by death.

I always make it a point to get an elbow in there as I pass by to imply that this is the wrong place to hold your conversation, asshole!

Tangentally, people waiting for tables in restaurants who make no attempt to not be in the way

This weekend I was at Revolution Brewing. There is a big waiting area with bench but there was a group of fucktards standing near the corner of the bar getting in the waitress’s ways. There wasn’t even anyone sitting in the benches.

And the ones

who pause at the top of the escalator to decide what to do next. Argh.

LockportSox - January 25, 2012 reply

The worst.

No.

The people at McDonalds who take for-fucking ever to choose the type of hamburger they are going to wolf down. Like the hamburger menu has changed in the last 50 years?

FFS. Have a clue. And then have your goddamn money ready!

People that take forever to decide on food in general.

It’s food. You’ll spend 15 minutes eating it; it’s not a 10-year contract. In 18-24 hours it’ll be behind you completely. Fucking choose something already.

dude, thats my wife

I dont even look at the menu for about 10 minutes and send the server off for more time every time now, because for the first oh, 8 years together I would just fester with rage after I decided what I wanted to eat in about 2 minutes.

Then, without fail, what are you going to have? Does it fucking matter? NO. Pick what you want to eat!

I too dislike being asked what I'm going to have…

to the extent that I occasionally continue looking at the menu and pretend to be undecided until the waiter shows up.

Dick move? Yes. But so is asking a stupid-fuck question.

I hate when I tell the Ms what I'm planning on getting and she then claims she was going to order the same thing but can't now.

WTF mate?! Don’t lay that on me

mine does that too

I always have 2 things on the ready, to cut her off at the pass.

Me too

why can't she order the same thing?

my dad does this. i never understood the reasoning.

They talked about it in Predictably Irrational

It is a prominent feature of individualistic cultures whereas in collectivist cultures the tend to do the opposite.

http://lfp-blog.com/dr-lams-blog/dallas-botox-injections/predictably-irrational-part-5-of-5-how-to-order-off-a-menu/

Here is a summary

She asks so she knows if she wants that too she can have some

of yours, and then also get what else she wants.

I don't mind the questions.

By all means, get two different things so you can try each others’ food. Just don’t take more than a few minutes to decide.

behind you, literally

ttj.

Yinka Double Dare - January 26, 2012 reply

Those benches at Revolution aren't really a waiting area, they have a server like the rest of the tables

They’re still fucktards because the right side of the bar has a long ledge for your beer if you’re standing there and you aren’t in the servers’ way over there either.

i rage SO hard about

people who block the stairs at the Lake red line station. slower people to the right, let me through! i’ve missed trains because of it.

Jack M - January 24, 2012 reply

If they're on their cell phone it's ok to throw them on the tracks.

Ozzie Montana - January 24, 2012 reply

D.) frustrates me the most

Escalators aren’t amusement park rides. Keep walking or at least get your ass over

I'm a OPOS for sure

The wife & I went to Trader Joe’s to grab some grub after returning from vacation on NY eve. Some little shit kept butting in front of me at one of the food coolers. I was quickly getting pissed. Finally I turned to the absent-minded dad (or whatever the hell he was) & said very loudly, EXCUSE ME!!"

Kids will be kids, but parents PLEASE be aware of what your little cherub is doing.

Most of the frustrating behaviors are narcissistic, aloof or they just don’t give a crap. There’s that moment of rage within that begs me to worsen what’s being done to me. Alas, not all people are in tune. I think respect & awareness are not being taught or maybe simply ignored.

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

a tangent of this

people who stop to talk in the stairs. because that is a BRILLIANT place to catch up! just block the one stairwell that serves eleven floors. what a fucking genius plan. I always want to run them over.

blackoutsox - January 24, 2012 reply

oh. Ok, so I posted my stairwell comment right before reading the next two about staircase gatherings. heh.

it seems to be a common problem

blackoutsox - January 24, 2012 reply

I don't think your dentist knows how to use a dental dam

otherwise you wouldn’t be so upset.

cmon! what, too easy?

The idea of using them for sexual endeavors has me extremely disturbed.

The chain of thoughts that this triggered for me at 8 this morning is startling. Yet hilarious.

I had to look this up.;

Boy, is my face red.

You're doing it wrong.

Not if you use them properly.

,

colintj - January 24, 2012 reply

my teeth are all pretty much rotten on the inside,

but are fine to look at. which is why i moved to america, to feel that sense of belonging.

"greetings from the home of superbowl 46"

is that really the best thing you can say about indiana?

oh? oh. carry on.

I can't believe they trotted that dick out there

Those assholes better get some shit done.

So reluctant, but...

TWSS.

Boo.

Robot

Does this thread have a party scheduled?

Because that was fun.

we need to mail out invites and those little liquor samplers

colintj - January 24, 2012 reply

Old people need to get the fuck out of my way

And stop telling me about their ailments and last week’s weather. I wasted five minutes of my life because some diabetes ridden starchqueen 85 year old decided to put her gloves on after she squeezed out of the booth in a crowded restaurant. I had no other move but to stand there holding my squirming son. Then she tried to get money out of her gaudy fucking purse with her fucking gloves on which was apparently impossible because then she sat down to take her gloves off. Please stay home and I don’t feel sorry for you because you will probably have more years on this earth than i ever get.

at the grocery store i get irritated if i am behind someone who is writing a check to pay for their groceries.

(and no, i’m not there to buy food. that’s where i buy beer)

A couple years ago I stood behind a woman who paid for a five dollar item at Walgreens with a check.

Sometimes I marvel at the extraordinary patience I never knew I had.

...

Secret Chimp - January 25, 2012 reply

The $.67 check for halfnhalf entered my mind as well!

Post-dated three days!

I am disgusted by skinny jeans (on men or boys)

Is this a rebellion against my generations baggy affinity? Skinny jeans are gross you asshole is sctuslly pressing up against your clothing.

on the plus side, it'll be more difficult for those idiots to procreate.

I hate when people sag skinny jeans

It is insane

I hate that Levi's redesigned the 569s last year

and removed like three inches from the crotchal region in an apparent effort to force more people into the low-rise, ass-crack-showing populace, or to squash my balls.

Either way, it was change I do not believe in. I still have not found a replacement style. My eight pair of 569s are getting ragged.

obnoxious american - January 25, 2012 reply

this is why i wear nothing but polyester.

I've haven't tried these yet, but the radio ads are brilliant

Ballroom Jeans

Crouch without the ouch

Amazing. What an age to be alive

They're on TV too

LockportSox - January 25, 2012 reply

I hate when people can't pronounce or spell my last name because it's quite well-known.

But then again I’m sure people are annoyed when they call tech support and some dude with a Bengali accent calls himself Bob.

Ozzie Montana - January 24, 2012 reply

that's kind of hard to believe.

i’ve never heard anyone mispronounce “montana”.

Let me guess: Patel.

Gandhi

Ozzie Montana - January 24, 2012 reply

Do you pronounce it Gone-Dee or Gandy (rhymes with candy)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2il8JSUcfm0&feature=related

colintj - January 25, 2012 reply

People that don't get off the elevator when the door opens. This is your stop, asshole. Get out.

This infuriates me because it occasionally makes me guilty of another pet peeve of mine: the guy who tries to get into the elevator before the people trying to get off have. If you do that, I walk right into you. Then I say something condescending like “you gotta let the adults off the ride before you can get on, big guy.”

Also, if you are talking on your phone while on the elevator, I will say something loudly to anyone else is the elevator to the effect of:

Don’t you hate when people talk on the phone in the elevator?

That's great. I gotta use that.

somebody walked in my elevator as i was getting out today

a collision occurred, i think i won! give it a second, will ya?

Jack M - January 24, 2012 reply

I hate when there is a large bank of elevators and people still feel the need to get into crowded cars just as the door is closing

It isn’t the last lifeboat on a sinking ship. Just wait 2 seconds, push the button, and get on a different elevator.

My biggest elevator issue

Is when people come up after you’ve pushed the button and it’s clearly lit up saying that “Yes, the down button has been pushed” And they still push it. It ain’t about to come any faster and bonus anger if they actually watched you push the button and then went ahead and pushed it too. I mean, WTF? That drives me into an apopleptic rage.

zevsenesca - January 25, 2012 reply

SB Nation really needs an edit button

ChiSoxRox - January 24, 2012 reply

Why?

I have a tendency to rewrite posts a second after I type them, and by then, it is too late.

ChiSoxRox - January 27, 2012 reply

What I hate is when a phalanx of tourists get off the elevator and then walk across my lawn.

Oh. And when whippersnappers complain about old people. I’m looking at you Rue-Barb.

Chiburb - January 25, 2012 reply

Older citizens deserve respect but if they are at the point where they are having trouble moving or functioning in society

they need to be more cognizant of their surroundings and let young people in a hurry get the right-of-way. Just because a person has lived many years doesn’t mean they do not have to adhere to simple rules of society. I open doors for old folks, help them down curbs, i do whatever I can to help old people who need help…how about the old people return the favor and get out of my way? I know this is so ridiculous and borders on insanity on my part, my heart isn’t made of steel and I of course have older folks in my family but c’mon already in the above example.

"help them down curbs"

sounds rather violent

greenlight - January 25, 2012 reply

Old people have their place.

It’s called Florida. We give you right-of-way down there. Everywhere else? Move your decrepit carcass the fuck out of my able-bodied way!

I have to say this thread is a pleasant surprise

When I say all the comments I was assuming it was going to be a state of the union, political nonsense-athon.

Well done, SSS. Well done.

politiking on SSS is against the rules and a waste of time, right?

No rules in thr RRRR

At least none that have stopped us before.

A waste of time, yes.

The state of the union WAS the political nonsense-athon

Obama, Romney, Gingrich…I don’t like any of them.

That’s why the Sox need to do well, so I can ignore the country going to hell in a gasoline truck.

Another thing to add to the annoyance list: This country is going to hell

Folks been saying it since the start. Seriously quit being hysterical. Lowest murder rate in half a century, recovering from a debt driven recession at much the same rate as every other country with debt driven recessions has, actually making progress on gay rights, etc.

Seriously, it’s never been a better time to be alive. Quit listening to people trying to scare you into voting for them.

Also our cars are safer and you can play Scrabble on your phone

while you drive!

I can never remember how to spell "ambulance"

nobody can. Even the fucking ambulance painters always get it backwards

How is this not green?

Chiburb - January 25, 2012 reply

I spell it

G-O-L-D-S-C-H-L-A-G-E-R

Underrated.

True, but still no jet cars or adroid butlers

*android

DrEmilioLizardo - January 26, 2012 reply

*adroit

Cause my butler cant do shit right.

Boehner looking disinterested the whole time was great though

Best part of the SOTU to me

whitesoxmatt - January 25, 2012 reply

My favorite part was when Obama said he would sign a bill tomorrow that bans insider trading for Senators and Congresspeople

the response to that from both sides of the aisle was comical. He was basically using that issue as an example of the overarching problem of leveling the playing ground. Another favorite part was when he threatened the banks.

yeah i'm sure congress will get right on that.....

Jack M - January 25, 2012 reply

Pet Peeve: Parents not controlling their brats

Running around, screaming, causing damage at malls, restaurants, etc.

The parents need their parenting license revoked.

I have a steadfast rule for my 2-year old that at a restaurant or the train or anywhere where people are seated

that he remain seated and under no circumstances stare at people, no matter how cute he is or well-received the staring is. I remember before I was a father how annoying it was to have a baby or toddler staring at me while I am trying to eat or mind my own business. I am lucky because my kid is well-behaved and generally follows the rules and stays close to me.

hey! I love getting stranger kids to stare and then making them giggle.

who cares if i’m probably a pedo.

This isn't a pet peeve, more like a "What kind of awful parent are you"

But bringing young children to R-rated or horror movies has got to be the stupidest trend in existence. I saw Drive, Paranormal Activity 3 and Hangover 2 in the theaters last year and each time there were so many little kids running around.

Ozzie Montana - January 25, 2012 reply

Ha, when I saw Jackass 2 there was a couple with their five year old kid sitting in the aisle in front of me.

Yeah, they shoot bottle rockets out of their butts. I’m sure the kid won’t take it to heart. No big deal or anything.

I sat near a guy with a couple young kids during Kick Ass

kick ass isnt quite the same thing

at the zoo my daughter was trying to look at one of the little toddler sized things to read.
this brat a year or two older than her saw this, came over and held it closed while both his parents looked on like he wasnt being a little prick.

i gave the dad a dirty look for a few, then moved the kids arm off of it saying ’EXCUSE ME, SHE WAS LOOKING AT THAT."

asshole parents are the worst.

We were at the Botanic Garden with the inlaws last year, and they have these

flower shows/contests for specific types in the green house areas from time to time. So they have all these super delicate flowers on tables out on display with their awards, and these two little girls were touching and bending and peeling off petals, all while their mother just watched. The wife, who usually avoids confrontation like the plague went over to the little girls and told them the flowers were meant for looking at, not for touching, which of course pissed off the mother. “Why are you telling my children what to do?” etc… “Because your children are destroying the hard work of others, and if you aren’t going to tell them it’s wrong, someone else needs to.”

I was hoping for a good catfight, but it just ended up with that bitch mother sending hard stares the rest of the time in the greenhouse. Oh well.

You are The Greatest Generation.

Not. Flower fights. Fer Chrissakes, SSE.

So was I supposed to step in and slap the mother or something?

You're supposed to act like the WWII generation and deny her civil rights

"What did I tell you about these flowers?!?"

Went to a Green Day concert about 10-11 years ago.

Billy Joe screaming out “If masturbation has lost its fun you’re fucking nowhere”. Great line. I turn to the people standing next to me – a single Mom, with 3 boys aged 11, 9, and 7 screaming out the lyrics, too. Nice.

Fortunately, I was married at the time or I might’ve taken a shot at her. Probably freaky!

I know, I just went to the mall last night

Look at the photo I took. Godamm unchecked toddlers:

i joined 300 strangers in a spontaneous choreographed dance to shake a tail feather yesterday. weird day.

lots of space in that mall

Grinder Rule #42 - January 25, 2012 reply

i always wondered where they filmed that at?

Ford City?

Dixie Square Mall on Dixie highway in Hazlecrest I think

dtv - January 25, 2012 reply

Good call. In Harvey, though.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/locations

this place has got everything

and the related scene:

they just tore that down recently

it sat vacant for ever.

Aaaaand now it's on the news.

Fucking coincidental.

The news reads the RRRR.

and the new Oldsmobiles are in early this year!

just wondering if you have kids... my kids are pretty well behaved for the most part...

but there are times that a bug gets up their ass and its near impossible to “control” them.

i hate when people sneeze in an uncontrollably loud and annoying manor

and do it the same way every time…i understand you have to sneeze but you dont have to make it your mission that everyone in a half mile radius can hear you…fuck off loud sneezing people

ndsoxfan - January 25, 2012 reply

My dad does that. I don't understand why you need to engage your vocal cords during a snezze.

I do it too, but I swear its not extra emphasis, its just letting it go naturally. It just happens to be violent.

My officemate calls it a “dad sneeze,” because his dad did it that way too.

He argues that its a “hey look at me” sort of thing, like the way loud grunters in the gym are trying to draw attention to themselves. I disagree, although I am known for being the loud sneeze guy, so maybe it IS my vanity project.

If you sneeze in Wisconsin

it it yellow?

No, I sneeze Green and Gold.

i dont sneeze often, but when I do,

its HAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIAAAAAA-CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

can’t help it.

I have a loud sneeze too and I cannot prevent it. I'm so sorry, everybody in my vicinity!

But at least I cover my mouth to do it. I hate walking into people’s sneezes.

as a loud sneezer, i expel my aerosolized snot in your general direction

but seriously, we’re better than the quiet sneezers. at least we let it out, i always think their heads are about to explode from the pressure.

I'm also a loud sneezer. But I sneeze once.

The gf is a multi-micro-sneezer. No fewer than three, often five, once ten. TEN.

By the 7th I was cheering her on. “Come on, honey! NINE! YES! COME ON! ONE MORE!”

I sneeze 3 times.

No more, no less. My father used to sneeze for 5 minutes at a crack. Fiancee sneezes like a little tree fairy – high-pitched and soft. Cracks me up.

My french teacher in high school would sneeze "Achoo-choo-choo-choo-choo-choo"

It was hilarious

fewer

Im a loud repeater

I average five big ones

I admit, I'm a suppressor.

95% of my sneezes don’t leave my nose/mouth. Hygiene!

That's not good for you, TP!

Why not? I've never noticed any adverse effects.

DrEmilioLizardo - January 26, 2012 reply

A girl I used to date got a pneumothorax doing that- (collapsed lung)

Let em fly, my man.

Dammit, actually trying to remember now.

Keeping them in is a tough habit to break. I think of you when I sneeze, Doc. Heh.

won't be hygienic when your eyeballs fly out of their sockets

THEN WHAT.

my head is at least 90% sneeze extract

one day a held back sneeze is gonna split my skull

another thing that sends me into a hot funk: mr. food. oh Q! why does he have to exist?!

anyone ever see this jackass? he has a segment on one of our local tv stations during the noon news where he “prepares” a “recipe”. i just saw his latest entry. here it is, pretty close to exactly.

saute some thinly sliced onions in oil until brown. while this is happening take your store bought rotisserie chicken and shred it with your hands. add it to the onions. add your favorite bottled barbecue sauce. add some hot pepper jelly. add some water and brown sugar. heat through and mix. serve on a roll.

grrrrrr.

and the extra crazy and idiotic thing about this particular segment

was that he wasn’t making it as he talked through it but was pretending to. the camera cut him off in the middle of his chest and he would act like he was doing something with his hands. then they would cut back and forth between him and an obviously already recorded pair of hands doing the “cooking”.

oh the agony. why does this keep happening to me?

ooooooh it sooo good

ndsoxfan - January 25, 2012 reply

Because you keep not having a job?

What about a macaroni salad?

haha.

i’ve been thinking about that lately. (i stuck to my promise about not watching any episodes after the first one)
so that freakshow was supposedly making enough for 150 people (small portions). well i seem to remember him saying something about not even having started cooking the pasta with like 15 or 20 minutes left. do you know how many pounds of pasta he would have to cook for so many people? there’s no way he could cook that much pasta in the ime he had left. (and i recall guy or rachael commenting that he had cooked the pasta perfectly). i’d bet they just supplied him with cooked pasta. oh it’s so terrible.

i can't imagine they let those "people" touch anything important or dangerous.

its*

ndsoxfan - January 25, 2012 reply

It sure is.

hehe. To quote you from the last RRRR

“That’s a lot of bird shit.” Hence my response. TTJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqRjbeSuHi8

anybody got a little boy? this reminds me of my kid.

awesome video

that embodies baseball for me: young kid, teenager, young adult or OPOS, I feel the same way every time I play the game. Best game evah IMHO.

yep i agree.

and its not close.

Rhubarb Pet Peeve #1871

Corporate Cliche Speak, i.e. touch base, circle back around, between you, me and the phoneline, ramp up, phone tag—TAG YOU’RE IT!, etc, etc and so forth, win-win

yeah, my company has had 3 layoffs (~15-20% each) in the last 3 years

The first one was called Reduction In Force.
The second was something something Synergy.
The last one was Workforce Realignment.

They’re all the same thing.

"Right Sizing"

reduction in force! i know that one well.

great day when i heard that shit.

"Force shaping"

my older brother complains to me about these all the time

dynamic synergy incorporation and what not

grrrrrrrrryep. I refuse to ever go near the terms "reach out" or "go ahead". When someone suggests I "go ahead" and do something, I want to "reach out" and slam their fucking face against whichever nearby surface will leave the biggest mark.

What if "go ahead" is tongue-in-cheek?

I say that kind of a lot when talking down to people.

Yep.

where i came from there is no stigma attached to that phrase whatsoever.

Apparently "Office Space" never made it across the pond.

They specifically talking about Go Ahead as a noun meaning permission

I assume they’re fine with using go ahead as a command

No, it's the latter.

It’s a pussy-foot way of giving a command. Just tell me what you want done. Unless, of course, it’s me using it condescendingly because you’re too stupid to know the difference.

Not you, you. The masses.

mmmmkay, why don't you go ahead and calm down.

So you don't like people saying "Go ahead. Make my day"

and “Don’t wait for us to get back. Go ahead to the bar”?

No, like Trooper said. "Go ahead and file this report."

“Go ahead and do your job.”

"Why don't you go ahead and come on in on Sunday."

Ah, I see now

I'm not sure if this applies here but I have a theory called the 4-way stop.

Where you come to the intersection with a 4-way stop sign at the same time as another. If they meet your eyes, you wave, “go ahead.” If they take off as if you were never there you flip them the bird.

"team concept"

which translates to, “bend over backward for me & give me the price at which you make the least amount of $$”

obnoxious american - January 25, 2012 reply

put me down for corporate speak

People who use phrases like:
“There’s no ‘I’ in team”
I have found a suitable response to this irritating statement:
“No, but there is a ‘U’ in CUNT”

hoodlight - January 25, 2012 reply

the best are the asswipes that tell you that you shouldn't tell people how to talk when you protest this inarguable idiocy.

yeah, i’m the asshole, when you’re the one who can’t help but follow pathetic trends. that’s how the nazis started, fuckface.

Are you an SME of asswipes?

I am.

i know you mentioned that one somewhere.

what was it again?

Subject Matter Expert

homesickalien - January 26, 2012 reply

I thought you were a Small/Medium Enterprise

joewho112 - January 26, 2012 reply

ah yes.

sadly i am as well. against my will.

Automatic toilets that flush when you're still sitting down.

Grrraahhhhhh.

Automatic toilets that don't provide the option to manually flush

Some of us rather not sit above a pile of our own poop for 20 minutes while we read our Twitter feed

Ran into precisely this problem at a Brazillian steakhouse on Saturday night.

I did not appreciate having to stand and lean to the left to make that horribleness go away.

The wonderful concept of not having to touch the handle to flush has yet to be perfected.

The Japanese have state of the art public bathrooms.

The technology exists! Why is the US so slow to adapt?

The Crapper family has a helluva lobby.

insert simpsons gif of when they visited Japan

Foot-activated flushing?

I know it’s been discussed here a lot before, but it really does need to happen. Maybe by the time I can no longer get my leg up that high.

I've used urinals with that feature.

Haven’t found a toilet with it yet.

when my daughter was potty-training, she basically had graduated

Then one premature flush from a jet-engine automatic toilet put her back to diapers for a month.

haha

mine was almost fully trained, too, and now she doesnt even admit her diaper is full of piss.
nothing traumatic to explain her regression though.

SO this.

my son was freaked out at using public toilets for like 3 months after that happened at Beggars pizza in oak forest.

lights that turn off after 5 minutes

sometimes it takes longer than 5 minutes

Jack M - January 25, 2012 reply

it's the cheapass that sets them for that amount of time

That's a real thing?

Ha. Pooping with a timer. Classic. If I were the maintenance staff there I’d set it for like 90 seconds. Just enough time to get comfortable.

I would take it as a challenge.

We have automatic toilets and urinals.

We have automatic soap dispensers, automatic faucets, and automatic hand dryers and paper towel dispensers.

But we still have to grab that filthy fucking door handle.

I am not a fan of that.

always save a paper towel for that disgusting bastard and toss it after opening the door.

I do that if the garbage is within reaching distance of the door.

I’ve also begun carrying hand sanitizer with me. I’m not pleased at how much of a nancy I’m becoming in my old age.

yeah jesus christ. man up sally

It's the only job my pinky ever has.

What do you use to hit the "z" key?

my second to last finger

My foot.

Or index finger. Whichever’s closer.

anything having to do with powerpoint

seriously, fuck that software and all it entails.

I use powerpoint once per year for my annual business plan and I have quite a lot of fun with it

but then again my boss is the opposite of stuffy.

the poor english of the rosetta stone tech support.

come on, assholes! don’t you see the irony?

how many times do I have to say मैं माफी चाहता हूँ before you stop bringing this up?

and when it comes to multi-person bathrooms, the stall-pisser is my fucking nemesis.

i don’t know what your hangups are, but open urinals are to be used first and foremost.
if you’re pissing in a stall while urinals are available, you’re an asshole.

at my old office, we’d announce anybody who pissed in the stalls or didn’t wash their hands. not on my watch, douchebag.

seriously, wash your fucking hands.

stall-pissers that don't lift the seat should be sent to gitmo and tried in front of a military tribunal for their crimes.

along with the non-flushers.

an inquisition is on at the office if there's a non-flush.

my floor has 3 chicks and the rest dudes. it may take a while, but the mass ridicule is brought down with great vengeance and furious anger at those who would attempt to poison and destroy our porcelain.

I almost had to go the reverse and pinch a loaf in the urinal.

Standing there waiting fifteen minutes because this corpse doesn’t have a functional digestive system is not ideal.

In fairness, when the poor bastard finally emerged from the stall, he looked thoroughly defeated.

Oh yeah, and warm toilet seats, which only serve to remind that there was very recently another bare, shitting ass in that same spot moments prior.

Dude, fuck public bathrooms. Jesus.

Ah, the worst is at very public places.

Crowded bars that may or may not have stall doors. The Cell, the UC, etc. If my digestive status is even close to “questionable,” you better believe I’m taking an Imodium AD before leaving the house.

you party animal.

I KNOW.

These threads always devolve into food and/or poop. I’m a fan.

Grinder Rule #42 - January 25, 2012 reply

everybody poops

indeed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoJo81lujk

Is this Michael Stipe?

Dive bar here in Manhattan has no lock or toliet paper in the men's room.

I have shit in the women’s bathroom.

we were drinking up north once at a place called irish eyes.

all that was there is a toilet and a sink. my boy had to barf and barged in on someone sitting on the toilet to puke in the sink. lol

chitown tap, before it was re-named and remodeled, had a broken urinal.

i was there on a crowded friday night for $1 bottles and walked in to find the entire bathroom a half inch deep in piss. and i looked up to find some drunk guy pissing into the broken urinal, which was spilling piss onto the floor at the exact same rate.

there are some aspects of drinking with college kids that i don’t miss.

I will never forget my first trip to the Clybourne in Champaign.

When I saw that dude pissing in the corner of the downstairs dance floor, I knew I was not in the right place.

Oh man, that place.

They completely redid it over my junior year.

Pretty nice on the inside now.

i'll believe that when i see it.

which will be never.
(i think i was in there when it was called r&r’s a long time ago)

I still have my R+R's Sports Grill Mug Night Mug

A 1 liter mug filled with terrible beer for $1. Lots of good times there on a Wed. night with my fellow Marching Illini… and the rugby clubs.

zevsenesca - January 26, 2012 reply

What years were you there?

94-98

My first year in the band, we went to the Liberty Bowl. I was certain that by my senior year I would be Rose Bowl bound. Alas, 1997 they went 0-fer. The Liberty Bowl was it. (And an awesome time)

zevsenesca - January 26, 2012 reply

A good friend/roomate of mine was in the marching illini

from 95-97(?) I’ve heard some good stories about you band nerds.

oh i agree. i had to take a dump at the Cell once. it was in 06 i think too so the stadium was packed.

that is just a horrible situation. to avoid a line behind me i had to tell the people “yah i gotta take a dump its going to be awhile”. then there is the piss all over the place. then people start lining up when you are in there shitting and they get hostile.

i’ve given up on the hotdogs at the park because i’m convinced that if i eat the onions (that i love so much) i will have to take a dump before the game is over.

although this year that shouldn’t be a problem. just go up to the upper deck down the lines and you will have all the privacy in the world!

The upper deck bathrooms are great.

Center field under the Fan Deck.

Hardly ever crowded. Tell no one.

TP, I believe we are digestive system compadres

I am also keenly aware of the less popular Cell bathrooms that I can access in case I get a hold of a bad bratwurst and it gets a hold of me. The fan deck crapper is normally quite secluded and offers privacy in your moment of need.

I often carry an Immodium tablet should intestinal distress incur. Nothing worse than being at a crowded venue (or a traffic jam) when nature opens up a can of whoopass on you.

On the upside, I wouldn’t worry about too many long lines for anything at the Cell this year.

tailgater - January 26, 2012 reply

Maybe for the exits.

Boom!

…particularly after you two have those bratwursts.

club level is awesome.

Eh, not really a fan.

Though the bathrooms are nice, i’ll give you that.

i love the club level. what is your issue with it?

KenWo4LiFe - January 26, 2012 reply

I think I've said it before, but it's too fancy for me and the fans are kinda shitty.

It’s a ballgame, dammit. I don’t want to hear people ordering white wine during a rally.

well if someone ever blesses you with scout seats... id take them off your hands.

no need for you to get in there with those people. lol

KenWo4LiFe - January 26, 2012 reply

Haha. No, I'll keep 'em, thanks.

That’s just a little different situation.

It's great when the weather is iffy.

MarketMaker - January 26, 2012 reply

never lines in concessions either.

i was there for one of the cub games, so it was pretty nice not have to deal with any of that.

personally i think they should bring back the troff.

there are plenty available at addison & clark for you

you'd enjoy the pubs in britain.

My bathroom nemeses are the chicks that put down seat covers and then leave them behind on the seat. Often soiled/sprinkled, I might add.

They are so uptight about protecting their own asses from the germs of others; yet they leave behind their soiled seat covers for someone else to deal with. Just. flush. it!

If I ran into someone who did this after a dentist appointment, I might actually drown a bitch in the toilet.

Often soiled? As a great man once said,

savages.

3E8 - January 25, 2012 reply

Seat covers?

Oh, so this.

LockportSox - January 26, 2012 reply

if you're on the metra alone and you take the last row and the row opposite (facing it), i hate your guts.

everybody is entitled to try to get their own row if space permits, but 4 total spaces? come on, man.

i'll just say this once.

goooooooaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Jackasses on the bus who stand in the aisle instead of moving to the back to take a seat

Everybody else has to smoosh together in the front because these morons won’t move back.

Also fatties that take more than one seat. Pay two fares or take up less space

I hate uneven work food distribution

One day there will be loads of food. Its someone’s birthday AND bigwigs have a lunch meeting and there are good leftovers AND someone bought too much pizza AND a vendor sent cookies over. Plus that’ll be the day you brought a good lunch. You eat way way too much because when it rains, it pours.

Then the next day, nothing. And that’s the day you can’t get out for lunch, and all you have is an Easy Mac in a desk drawer. Can we please spread it out a little?

where i was teaching we didn't get a lunch break.

if we ate it had to be in front of the kids. most of our kids don’t get much to eat throughout their day. i felt like an ass bringing stuff in so i wouldn’t eat or if i did id give it to them. you can get in trouble for giving kids food at school but come on. i’m really going to sit there and stuff my fat face while my students come to school so they might get a fricking nutrigrain bar? so id bring my food… give most of it away… stop at mcdonalds or something on the way home for an emergency double cheese burger. no wonder i put on 50 lbs working there.

I love the phrase "emergency double cheeseburger",

because I fucking totally understand the concept.

Similar to the “preemptive double cheeseburger”, which you pick up on your way to the event, if you anticipate it being a while before dinner is served, and you are scared that you might dwindle down to 250 lbs.

lol.

the preemptive double cheeseburger is key. especially when going to a funeral or wake

Pacers call a time out with 57 seconds left. Wide shot of the court and Benny is with a little kid doing a somersault.

Somebody please make me a gif of that kid doing the worst somersault ever, toppling over on his head.
That made the first home loss less painful.

i was unaware you could give an "oh shit!" look while in a mascot uniform, but benny sure did as the kid ate it midcourt.

He put his hoof-hands on his plush bull face!

Hilarious.

I'm on the Rock Island heading to the homeland right now.

Amazing how many drunks there are on this train at this hour.

You and how many?

I was offered a Miller Lite on the BNSF at about 9:30 in the morning this past summer while coming home from visiting the gf.

I love the trains.

U-God - January 26, 2012 reply

More to add

Junkmail, junk/spam email, telemarketers…I’ve benn slammed with all of them lately. If I want something, I’ll seek it! Otherwise, leave me the eff alone!

lastof12 - January 26, 2012 reply

I hate the spam texts.

U-God - January 26, 2012 reply

this. STOP doesn't do shit.

thatshortkid - January 26, 2012 reply

Probably only validates that it's a functional number.

I signed up for weather alerts from my suburb. Big mistake. Fuckers would spam me four-part texts if a single cloud was visible on the horizon. Had to fill out a form and fax it – twice – to get them to stop.

Both of my colleges do emergency alert texts, which are nice.

Other than that, I have no need for non-people texting me.

U-God - January 26, 2012 reply

the ones i get from the white sox are rather inconsistent

blackoutsox - January 26, 2012 reply

If any of you ever think about putting up crown molding in an 80 year old house

where there isn’t a square angle anywhere to be found in the room-

Don’t.

This is hysterical.

Picturing the Three Stooges and hand tools.

The chair rail in my dinette looks like it was installed by a blind person.

Oh…

Also, to build off of this (ha!),

never do anything plumbing-related to your house. Never. You will never respect yourself afterwards.

pro tip: the coping saw is your friend

run one end flat into the wall and cope the other end all the way through.

you can get away with twisting that shit way more when its coped.

e-gus - January 26, 2012 reply

Oh, It was coped with.

i look forward to this shit

This just in- The chances of Adam Dunn hitting 50 HR

next year are close to zero.

I enjoy all the SSS commentors.

http://www.publichousechicago.com/index2.html

how would you like it if the white sox announced they were about to make a spectacular free agent signing

and then it turned out to be a marketing stunt? that’s what bayern munich did. nice.

BuehrleMan - January 26, 2012 reply

Frank Thomas doing an appearance for BHB tomorrow at Public House on State.

http://www.time.com/time/world/a99,2105369,00.htmrticle/0,85l

messi on the cover of time magazine! (well, everywhere in the world except the U.S.)

BuehrleMan - January 26, 2012 reply

takeaway; americans are narcissistic ignoramuses

greenlight - January 26, 2012 reply

damn straight. i don't want to see that mess in the grocery line

as i’m getting my checkbook ready.

thatshortkid - January 26, 2012 reply

haha. it took a while but i got it.

anyway, you want to hear something hilarious listen to ray hudson’s call of messi’s third goal from the game against malaga last weekend. my two favorite parts: “HE’S LIKE DOCTOR SPOCK, HE’S OUT OF HIS VULCAN MIND!!!” and “RUNNING LIKE HE’S GOT A FOOD MIXER DOWN HIS SHORTS AND IT’S SET TO BEAT!!!”

http://deadspin.com/5878249/lionel-messis-hat-trick+finishing-goal-brought-announcer-ray-hudson-to-orgasm

BuehrleMan - January 26, 2012 reply

heads up, germaphobes.

http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/hand-sanitizers-as-agent-orange/

the desired equilibrium isn’t germ-free, it’s malignant-germ free.

colintj - January 26, 2012 reply

Equilibrium was a surprisingly good movie.

e-gus - January 26, 2012 reply

yes!

Well Brisbee has done it again

He has actually made me laugh. If you haven’t read his Marlin’s Stadium piece at Baseball Nation, youreallyshould.

Rhubarb - January 26, 2012 reply

sooooo

i hope this dui sucks as little as possible.

(nobody injured, just some dents. blah.)

Uh oh.

Fuck.

Sorry dude.

Get thee to an attorney.

And I hate needing attorneys. But there you go.

winningugly - January 27, 2012 reply

yeah, been looking and called a few, but I have no clue how to choose really.

if anyone has a recommendation I would appreciate an email.

it won't. ouch.

thatshortkid - January 27, 2012 reply

Oooof. In the city?

man, fuck sandbaggers!

played a 4 tonight who fucking ran everything out, made some cray bank shots, should’ve been a 5 minimum. balls.

Jack M - January 27, 2012 reply

I don't have any idea what the fuck you're talking about.

I think he is talking about FIFA 12

which I recently purchased as is about as maddening as Andy Sisco. I am on the lowest level, playing teams like Leeds and getting my ass handed to me.

what platform you play on? i'm on xbox360

Jack M - January 27, 2012 reply

Why? So you can bend me over like Beckham? I'm on PS3 any how.

So, tell me…how do I get by the dark colored jersey guys with the ball of soccer?

Lots of passing.

U-God - January 27, 2012 reply

The first month you own FIFA is one of the worst months ever.

U-God - January 27, 2012 reply

pro evolution is the superior game.

gameplay-wise at least. the licensing leaves much to desire.

craigws - January 27, 2012 reply

be desired, too.

craigws - January 27, 2012 reply

APA 8-ball league

its handicapped according to skill level

Jack M - January 27, 2012 reply

Ah.

Thank you.

Thank Christ it wasn't just me.

winningugly - January 27, 2012 reply

Think I'm going to see The Blake Griffin live in action next week in LA. From a safe distance in the uppers, though.

Must. not. get trashed and tell surrounding Clippers fans what I think of his face.

homesickalien - January 27, 2012 reply

just throw a bag onto the court

Any chance you’ve seen his cover on Men’s Health? Woof!

lastof12 - January 27, 2012 reply

Well now I have...

shit.

homesickalien - January 27, 2012 reply

My cousin and her husband went to the Clippers-Lakers game a few weeks ago.

And approximately ten fights broke out near courtside. So hope you still got the musket

Ozzie Montana - January 27, 2012 reply

What you think you 'must' do and what you actually 'must' do, are two different things

hsa fial

obnoxious american - January 27, 2012 reply

eh, still relevant as a stand alone comment.

I wholeheartedly appreciate the support

I am opening up a new market for my office in Engineering and I just got my ass handed to me by a Recruiting Manager at an Engineering Services firm. I felt like it was 2006. Time to get a drink. She asked me what I think an Environmental Engineer does, I was so pissed that she was giving me the third degree that I told her their job is to engineer environments to make them safer for human beings. I don’t know what the fuck they do. I told her that she was talking to the #1 Generalist in my company’s network that includes 7000 recruiters and I didn’t give a fuck what they do (it was obvious she wasn’t going to work with me at this point) and that I have a very specialized set of skills. She told she doesn’t give a fuck what I do and told me to have a nice day. Guess I’m spending the weekend researching exactly what it is the different engineering disciplines do.

That's a shitty, shitty feeling. Enjoy your drink dude.

Most hiring managers aren't like this

As long as you can find folks they don’t care about anything else, I think she was just bored.

yeah that sounds like something i'd do on facebook on a saturday afternoon

What, no party tonight?

You've gotta name your drink and a mundane detail.

Drinking Seabago Slick Nick Winter Ale

From the last microbrew of the month club. Just got done ordering the stuff necessary to make this.

you are a lunatic

I needed something to make. It's been awhile.

For me it's Old Grand Dad on the rocks. Because I had never had it before, and I had heard it wasn't bad, despite the name. And it's alright; probably on par with Beam, but with a dryer finish.

Anyway, I’ve been reading up on Air France 447 the past couple days, the A330 that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009. There’s an okay Nova special on Netflix about that doomed flight, but it came out before the flight data recorder was found late last year. Then there’s this article. Holy crap, that is some terrifying stuff.

A few points: a) If you hear a stall warning and don’t push the throttles forward and the nose down, you are officially an asshole. b) I can’t imagine what the passengers went through. “Looks like we’re climbing. Why are my ears popping? Why is there so much turbulence?” Blam. c) This is why I try to avoid flying on Airbuses. Between that and the A330 that went down in Queens in 2001, that’s two major disasters that wouldn’t have happened on Boeing (or any other) aircraft. Reactionary pilots and overly-computerized flight systems do not equal the pinnacle of safety.

Airbus:TP::Apple:SSE

I was on irc the other day with some old UIUC friends who have their

pilots license for small aircraft and they were talking about how wrong computerized systems can be at times. Scary shit.

irc?

you fucking nerd.

When you want to keep up with guys who you know from being in CS at UIUC circa

1996, you go to irc. I can’t really argue the nerd thing.

they probably still get their porn from use net

doesn't everybody?

i got sick of Al Gore working it out over my shoulder

He had to do it somewhere, I mean, you know Tipper wasn't taking

care of that.

Yeah, read the article.

They basically use joysticks, with no artificial feel, to control large aircraft (artificial feel is like feedback. Imagine if you used a volume dial to control the direction of your car; without computers it’d be very difficult to know exactly where you were turning it. Now imagine you have two people driving one car and there the computer averages out the inputs instead of physically telling the driver that they shouldn’t be doing that. Now imagine that that your car is going 500 miles and weights 900,000 lbs).

i imagined it.

it was awesome.

Now imagine you are my wife and crash into what is in front of you,

only what is in front of you is the ground.

i don't see where this is going

His wife rear-ended the Atlantic Ocean.

Duh.

$3400 worth of damage total, and that without the air bags going off.

Crumple zones, sure they are a safety feature, but wow do they make shit expensive.

if the airbags go off your shit is totalled

usually

Thank goodness those things don't go off under a certain speed.

oh no. really? i thought i had always heard airbus was really good. (haven't read your linked article yet but mrs. buhrleman read it a while back)

every time i’ve flown aer lingus it’s been airbus.

i flew aer lingus to ireland and it was fantastic.

MarketMaker - January 28, 2012 reply

lingus

:::snicker:::

RWShow - January 28, 2012 reply

I enjoy going through u.s. customs in dublin.

Drinking Bass right now

I read the popular mechanics article also and what stood out to me was that the ‘stall’ alarm doesn’t work very well when the pilots are all conditioned to ignore it.

BuehrleGirl - January 28, 2012 reply

The alarm is both loud and rare.

There is no way a pilot could/should be conditioned to ignore it. Which just opens up more questions as to why they didn’t respond to it. And also why they either didn’t check or trust their altimeter. Or their artificial horizon (which there would be no reason not to trust). For four minutes.

Or they simply trusted the computers too much.

Which is idiotic, since they knew they had bad airspeed readings and the autopilot was kicked off.

/squeegees eyes off, and realizes he read that nick correct.

i got a bottle of old grand dad for x-mas

waiting to drain the beam to open it.

That article is holycrap indeed. Thank you for sharing.

It’s incredibly tragic to know just how avoidable that crash was.

Aside from Bonin’s incorrect reaction to the issue…

If only the captain hadn’t gone down for a nap at the moment he did.
Or if they had paid any attention to the 70+ stall warnings.
Come ON!

i drank this.

also, until wednesday i had always thought nigel de jong was like 6’2" or more. i mean, he’s known as an enforcer of sorts. he broke ben arfa’s leg and kung fu kicked xavi in the chest in the world cup final. turns out he’s about 5’8".

What are you onto drinking now?

now

i had a bombay saph martini and makers mark.

what what

together?

savage.

I gotta say, of the three outa four beers I've had from this microbrew beer of the month,

I’ve yet to be super impressed.

I don’t really like Winter Ales, so this one was kinda a flop. The Frye’s leap IPA from the same company isn’t anything outstanding, and the Diamond Bear Pale ale wasn’t really all that impressive either.

winter ales are weird

even when they’re good, they’re not stouts or IPAs

Yeah. I knew I was gonna get at least one with this shipment.

It wasn’t bad, I’ve just never found one I’d call really good.

Off-hand, that seems very astute.

But thinking about it, winter ales are easier to drink a lot of. There’s something to be said for that (too much IPA will give me a wicked hangover if I forget to drink water, too).

I enjoy the Bell's Winter Ale and Sam Smith's Winter Welcome

one, then the other.

it was glorious.

Yeah, one liquor per night, eh?

What are we, your parents?

BM's trying to put me in an oval container.

if you’re asking, there is a certain irony.

can't win em all

Fuller's London Porter

I got a 12 pack of mixed “world beers” from World Market from the in-laws for Xmas. First one I’ve tried.

mundane detail

I had ribs and salad tonight with an 1800 Margarita.

has shannon doherty always had a diastema?

and does this explain pretty much everything? also how big of a fuck up do you have to be to go from Charmed to classesplease.com? and i’m not saying Charmed is some kind of pinnacle, either.

Holly Marie Combs would have been my pinnacle for a good chunk of my early 20s.

what, she never showed up on IRC?

She did, but she said she was living in Canada at the time.

It's gonna be one of those mornings where the wife wakes up and finds me passed out on the

futon with half a beer left, the apartment smelling like a fresh batch of beef jerky, and dinner for the next two nights already made. Bonus drunken kitchenry- A new batch of frozen fruit bars. Tonight I went for pineapple strawberry banana. Also, batter for brunch crepes has been made. Drunken Martha Stewarting is great. Still not as good as being down at Miller’s post SoxFest, but I’ll take it.

What about a macaroni salad?

I can’t help myself.

many a good thing can come from a fine macaroni salad.

I dunno if you remember New Years last year, but I am again listening to the police radio app.

Still good stuff.

True story-

I got like an hour sleep before the party cat decided to ruin my shit. Had to get up and feed the bitch despite still being drunk. Since I’m up and the wife is most likely gonna be up within the hour cause that’s how she rolls with her work schedule, I start making the crepes and having a bloody mary. The wife wakes up soon thereafter.

It’s not even 8am, and I’ve already poured her three drinks.

“If you are still gonna be a drunk ass at 7am, I’m gonna join you, jerk.”

This is gonna be a long awesome day.

Are we having a party?

I don't see what the difference is.

Today, tomorrow, and forever.

AWESOME!

I beat Arkham City today. Good shit.

MARK YOU TAKE NAPS ALL DAY!

Accurate!

Party -> Nap -> Party

Also, New Belgium Folly pack.

Now we’re talking!

i beat the main mission a couple of days ago,

but am still tracking down the riddler.

That is the boat I am currently in as well.

Still need to finish the phone call killer shit as well.

Creepiest end credits ever?

did you do the catwoman missions? or find killer croc?

it is an awesome game.
i look forward to seeing if they can uphold the quality when they ultimately expand it to the whole of gotham.

I've done all but the final Catwoman mission.

Hadn’t found Croc. Didn’t know he was in the game.

he is hiding in the sewers.

pussy

colintj - January 28, 2012 reply

I hate the steel mill so much.

One entrance and exit? Blargh.

there's one in the joker's office.

look for the arrows on the floor.
also, look at the floor besides harley’s costume in that office.

odd that a video game i never played and likely never will

is a more appealing topic to me than soccer.

This.

heh, I don't make the comparison to soccer

but it is odd how carefully I found myself reading this bit of thread. haven’t played a video game in many years, I must be craving it.

Trooper - January 30, 2012 reply

i fired up red dead redemption on the x-box last sunday

because i wanted to watch ‘hell on wheels’ ans there wasn’t one.

its fun so far, i guess. i hadn’t played a game in years either.
i almost forgot my netflix machine played games.

just picked up resistance 3 to go with this:

i’m nowhere near as good as if i were using the regular controller (which isn’t much anyway, admittedly), but it’s so. much. fun. i also had forgotten that the blu-ray/netflix/mlb.tv machine also featured games.

love me some red dead.

still haven’t unlocked the mountain part yet. looking forward to hunting down some bear with nothing but a knife.

Im currently carrying 19 wolf pelts

they get after me.

have you tied a lady to the traintracks yet?

it is spectacular.

i have not, law and order every time, thats me.

but I am definitely going to do that right now.

I’ll have to get the whore who pretends to need help.
or maybe a nun.

Put a bandana on.

While you have one on, no one can recognize you so you gain no evil points.

i believe you can hold-up the train too.

Oh this

Very, VERY this

you guys suck.

I think I'm gonna start commenting like this when peoples' interests don't appeal to me.

it must be the zero soccer comments in the last three days

that is infuriating everyone.

BuehrleMan - January 30, 2012 reply

pleasing

I think the word you’re looking for is pleasing

Play nice UG

It’s all in good fun.

very odd.

Jack M - January 30, 2012 reply

i thought we had the soccer bashing thread already.

BuehrleMan - January 30, 2012 reply

you two calm down

it was merely an introspective observation.

FS

savage

RWShow - January 30, 2012 reply

ITA.

Still my least favorite place in the game.

Do love me some Easter eggs.

yeah, it is a pain in the arse to move through.

And I sincerely hate any Riddler puzzle involving the remote control batarang.

especially the ones where you have to direct it through some electricity first.

I more or less skip those ones.

Figure I can get to 400 without them. At 259 right now.

i think you need them all, plus the security cameras,

balloons, joker teeth, harley pa’s and whatever else there is to smash to get the last riddler challenge. though it’d be damn nice if you didn’t.

I read you only need to have 400 of the 440.

sweet.

How far along are you?

at 379 riddles apparently.

and i am yet to go into the subway again.
a couple of the combat ones may be a pain in the backside.

I enjoyed doing the line rider one above the shark tank.

I have to crack down on the Bowery, Wonder Tower, Amusement Mile, and the Industrial Sector.

haven't been back into wonder tower yet either.

need to have a look at strange’s office.
i liked the mad hatter one a lot. the ra’s al ghul level was good fun too.

Agree on both of those.

The boss fights were much better this time around. The one against Mr. Freeze was a lot of fun. The final boss fight was one of the most surreal I’ve ever encountered.

i enjoyed it though. never thought to consider that clayface was in the first game, but not this one.

did you go into crime alley before the final fight? the ‘pay your respects’ thing was interesting. need to go back there.

Yup.

I was very happy when he became involved.

Got home, snuck into the bedroom to nab the computer, went to the living room, laid down for two seconds,

aaaaaand good morning.

I missed the damn party. SSE, get your ass over here and make me breakfast, bitch.

RWShow - January 28, 2012 reply

x

Casting directors hate this.

obnoxious american - January 29, 2012 reply

they really do

colintj - January 28, 2012 reply

I've never seen a full episode of this show but it looks like fap material for nerds who can't stop thinking about video games for 5 minutes.

Ozzie Montana - January 28, 2012 reply

they mostly just review games badly.

the fuckload is that?

Trooper - January 28, 2012 reply

Will always recommend Rip Taylor.

Genius.

winningugly - January 30, 2012 reply

Fellow Wire people will enjoy this.

One cast member never really left. linky

Oh, and I have a tumblr you should all follow. First post is about Prince, the second is about why I’m glad JoePa is dead. fan-ominal.tumblr.com

2ndHalfAdjustments - January 28, 2012 reply

this elevates kima in my ranking of top wire characters

onlysoxfaninboston - January 30, 2012 reply

I rode a horse today.

It was neat.

In Tsarist Russia, horse ride you. [ /Squished Catherine the Great ]

Secret Chimp - January 28, 2012 reply

First time?

Yup.

Because it’s not sad at all going on your first ride with three members of the equestrian team. My horse would routinely stop or make random turns. I trusted he knew what he was doing more than I did.

Horse riding is great.

Get the bastard up to at least a trot and you can really feel their power. Thrilling. Damn, I miss that.

Yeah, it was pretty tight.

horse riding sucks

I went with my cub scouts pack when I was 8 and my horse was an asshole.

It stayed back behind everyone else and wouldnt walk for me at all until about half way through the trail, then that bastard took the fuck off.

He must have thought I was the worlds lightest jockey or something. I had to hang on for dear life, my little hat and scarf flew off, and the trail hands or whatever you call them couldnt stop him because they couldn’t catch us.

It was terrifying. Never again.

pussy.

lol

youre right. 50 lb kids shouldnt fear 1000 lb animals.

e-gus - January 29, 2012 reply

The thing that sucks about most trail riding places is you just can't get any speed going

on them. Thankfully, I’ve got some family with a ranch down South that has a few horses that can be taken out and into a full gallop, So I get to do that about once a year.

bullshit you cant

I've yet to come across a trail riding place that lets me do anything more than trot.

I was on a ranch.

People were making horses jump. I value life too much for that.

I rode a donkey up a mountain mexico

Nd got its shit all over my hands because i accidentslly dropped its rope and he stepped it all into his fresh shit. Mexican dudes laughed and said it ate too much mcdonalds. Fuckers

were you a priest at some point?

It was s tourist thing near puerta vallerta

Ride donkey up mountain along skinny edge path, zip line above canopies and repel down waterfalls. Very fun.

i was going for a graham greene reference.

good book.

my father read graham greene religiusly

so I obviously think it is silly

Rhubarb - January 29, 2012 reply

did that in egypt over some way too scary terrain

especially considering the size of some of the riders

Trooper - January 29, 2012 reply

Venchie needs to organize a mandatory team burro ride to 16,000's house for lunch on the first day of full roster spring training

16,000’s wife can make PB&J sandwiches for everyone and they can all bond and stuff

greenlight - January 30, 2012 reply

jimminychristmas

you are pounding your personal memes into the sand, was surprised you did not mention toe boat.

Rhubarb - January 30, 2012 reply

I'm guessing he'll show up after the first day to see if the new guy really has the cajones to fine him

greenlight - January 30, 2012 reply

'Tis the season.

IT'S NOT EVEN FEBRUARY

you lush.

colintj - January 28, 2012 reply

I think you meant to post a picture of a Peep.

i picked up one today in cvs and immediately become bitter.

the eggs in britain weigh twice as much. they also have sugar.
grumpgrumpgrump.

Just finished series 1 of Downton Abbey.

I’m underwhelmed. It’s like The O.C. as a period piece.

3E8 - January 28, 2012 reply

the writer is a dick.

yeah if you don't like soap/camp

you’re not gonna like it. it’s certainly not that interested in realism. but i think the writing is sharp and fun.

2ndHalfAdjustments - January 29, 2012 reply

and yet you spent six hours of your life watching it.

larry - January 29, 2012 reply

agreed

it gets a lot soapier in series 2.

The literal soapiness in the series 1 finale

was enough for me.

3E8 - January 30, 2012 reply

This John Mulaney guy on Comedy Central right now is pretty funny.

have you not heard the top part yet?

for serious?

I have not.

U-God - January 29, 2012 reply

you are a bad person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4cJv6s_Yjw&feature=related

Accurate!

U-God - January 29, 2012 reply

Digging the new PC hooked up to LED

Rhubarb - January 29, 2012 reply

Derrick Rose, sad face.

what a weird game

Awful finish but that was really fun. With no Deng, Boozer as absolute worthless scum they had a chance to win close.

Whatever, just proves that they’re the two best teams in the league.

One of those things won't be different in the playoffs.

MarketMaker - January 29, 2012 reply

Yep, and I don't think Hamilton will be that terrible.

anybody else think Korver has started to figure out how to play defense a little bit?

Even Boozer has his moments now. I'm sure you learn something after 2 seasons with Thibs.

http://www.blogabull.com/2012/1/25/2734462/full-length-mirror-reminds-carlos-boozer-he-is-69-250lb-black-man

The little piece over on blogabull

had me laughing my ass off-

South Side Expat - January 29, 2012 reply

Did you see his kids chanting "Let's go Heat" today in full Boozer garb? Hilarious.

obnoxious american - January 30, 2012 reply

I thought it summed up the situation nicely.

MarketMaker - January 29, 2012 reply

i find boozer hilarious in general.

he incites a murderous rage in me that i wouldn't describe as hilarious.

MarketMaker - January 30, 2012 reply

but he has such excellently manicured facial hair

the one thing that i have been laughing about regarding boozer

is his parents. the two ugliest people i’ve ever seen. not even joking. hideous animals.

MarketMaker - January 30, 2012 reply

But where are they on a scale of one to Blake Griffin?

they could be his parents.

MarketMaker - January 30, 2012 reply

Well now I'm just morbidly curious.

"hey girl"

obnoxious american - January 30, 2012 reply

Kind of a Bill Clinton "Esquire" mag cover shot.

“Hey, look at THIS!”

winningugly - January 30, 2012 reply

aw come on

when a teammate drives middle he actually yells “DUNK HIS ASS”.

that’s worth 17 million of jer’s money right there.

Oh. Just read this after posting my comment.

After regrouping, still sitting on the edge of the back of the couch, I came to the same conclusion. We had no Deng and Hamilton turned the ball over every single time he touched it.

No love from the refs either. In Miami. And we still nearly won that game.

And what was with Boozer’s seventeen+ children cheering for the Heat?

South Side Expat - January 30, 2012 reply

Did you catch LeBron and Wade shaking their heads at the end of the game?

They know they should have lost.

When is the next time Rose will miss two free throws in a row?

Never.

tailgater - January 30, 2012 reply

x

Is LeBron saying "Daaaaaaaaamn"?

Hah…love it.

tailgater - January 30, 2012 reply

I did. And he probably won't. But he was at 100% for the quarter prior to that visit to the line. He was due.

And then Lebron missed his next two, so we really needed to make something happen. There were plenty of opportunities.

Macaroni Salad Finale, Yo!

The Cheat - January 29, 2012 reply

don't tell me what happens.

BuehrleMan - January 30, 2012 reply

What a slow fucking day on SSS. With, what, 65 new comments all day, I hardly feel bad for not posting any links (that had already been compiled; maybe next week, fuckers).

A co-worker saw Frank Thomas sitting in first class on his way to Vegas tonight. So that was pretty cool.

Also, if you have a bit of patience, this is a decent look at Pitchfork. Worthwhile, but maybe not so effective. Starts almost lovingly, but then devolves into general attacks on Pitchfork’s influence on indie music. It’s not really mentioned in the article, but after reading that I’m inclined to look at Pitchfork as a sort of experiment gone amok rather than a professional review outlet. Though they wield tremendous power, there seems to be an unstated “amateur spouting off” cloud hovering over everything. Though that power is real, I also don’t see why others (in any sort of media) find it necessary to criticize them for any perceived (and perhaps unjust) shortcomings. It’s an interesting dynamic and article, at least.

normally i really hate n+1

and it still got into that n+1-ish easy moralizing at the end. but that was really good on balance.

colintj - January 30, 2012 reply

First time I had read n+1.

The end was really damning, and I wonder if it could be applied to the article I just spent 15 minutes reading.

onlysoxfaninboston - January 30, 2012 reply

the end is damning of any life not spent on the welfare of others

which considering the massive time and resources devoted to the article itself, yeah, it’s clearly hypocritical.

actually, everything i’ve read of theirs has that simplistic humanities/liberal arts rehashed 80’s new left politics that makes their focus on pop culture criticism make no sense in light of the things they advocate for. it’s like popular mechanics for any/all of the overwrought smart-but-misguided marxist lit crit i read in school. it’s too bad they don’t just stick to reporting/research, which is actually interesting. then again, do you really need me to tell you an English major can’t help but end up with his head stuck up his ass? it’s a wonder i can even type.

colintj - January 30, 2012 reply

this article could have been simplified into two words

"Worth reading?"

Mai

onlysoxfaninboston - January 30, 2012 via mobile reply

Mobile snafu

I wasn’t mocking you for linking that article, but I was thinking more like fuck pitchfork

onlysoxfaninboston - January 30, 2012 via mobile reply

Yeah, but why?

I’m that petulant 9-year-old, always asking why. I sort of agree, fuck Pitchfork, but that’s so easy. I admit that when I specifically like or dislike something I’ll go to Pitchfork to see their opinion on it and how it meshes with mine. And I often agree with their ratings, though when like something a lot I’ll be much more generous with my ratings. Perhaps because I don’t listen to all the much new music.

So did you agree with the article? Did you form any new opinions?

Pitchfork has to like SOMETHING

If it isn’t animal collective or M.I.A. It would be something else. That article is ridiculous. Its not Pitchfork’s fault that people take their word as gospel and end their musical search there, its people’s fault for once again being spoonfed opinions on what they should think is popular. If anything, Pitchfork has made a wider spectrum of music accessible and made some obscure musicians profitable and famous. Imagine if it DIDNT exist? The author seems to think music today would be far superior if Pitchfork wasn’t around because then people build on life experience rather than on rehashing influences? That seems pretty dumb. You’d think Schrieber is a nazi war criminal who altered world history and ushered in a new dark ages the way this bitch portrayed his company.

onlysoxfaninboston - January 31, 2012 reply

Its not Pitchfork’s fault that people take their word as gospel and end their musical search there, its people’s fault for once again being spoonfed opinions on what they should think is popular.

this

i think it’s difficult to make broad conclusions about pitchfork’s impact on music criticism and the industry. the timing of pitchfork is tightly correlated with the expansion of pretty much all (underground/mainstream) music made available through the internet, so it’s not easy to tease out pitchfork’s influence, whether you view it as positive or negative overall. BUT, i do think, youtube has had much more positive impact on underground independently produced music (new and old) relative to pitchfork…

and i’m not being a grumpy old man yearning for the old days…rather than from pitchfork, it was more fun to find new gems from WNUR in the late 80’s/early 90’s, the sales staff at various record shops (like record swap/champaign), and friends’ mixtapes…

i’ll stop rambling, but i’ll conclude with this quote from jon spencer at pitchfork festival, which is funny, b/c i think he’s alluding to pitchfork generated trends in crappy music..

Pitchfork: I’m amazed how differently this sounds now than it did in the 90s. I mean, I’m old enough that I remember when it came out originally and it just sounds necessary now.
JS: There’s a lot of crappy music out there. Me, I believe in punk rock and independence and creativity and there’s a lot of music that’s just kind of bad 70s rock. And that’s what I grew up hating, and it’s still around there. I think people could be more clever and use more of their grey matter. But there’s also some good music out there, so I’m not trying to be a curmudgeon.

I think we both agree that Pitchfork is pretty much obnoxious

but it serves a purpose for some folks and I think that is generally a good thing. Would you rather have your 12 year old brother turning on B96 or sifting through Pitchfork reviews? Once, my hypothetical little brother filtered out the B96 b.s. I would hope that he would start realizing that he shouldn’t take Pitchfork’s ratings as gospel and filter out bands that he might like because they received a respectable 6.2 from someone who doesn’t necessarily have the overarching authority to assign a number in order to represent quality or lack there of.

onlysoxfaninboston - January 31, 2012 reply

i think the impact of pitchfork is generally positive overall

but pitchfork gave high ratings to a lot of music that belongs in that category of b96, i.e. crap, this is my humble opinion

pitchfork is also one of countless resources for discovering new (or old) music. without sounding snobby, people who have more (and not necessarily passionate) interest in music listening will search it out or create their own scene and make innovative music.

i think it’s difficult to make broad conclusions about pitchfork’s impact on music criticism and the industry. the timing of pitchfork is tightly correlated with the expansion of pretty much all (underground/mainstream) music made available through the internet, so it’s not easy to tease out pitchfork’s influence, whether you view it as positive or negative overall.

Agreed. And I thought the article agreed, too. But then the last couple paragraphs threw me for a loop. Thinking back, now it’s just making me feel angry and betrayed. Why write thoughtful material if you’re just going to trash it in the end? Though it is titled 5.4, so he’s being a clever, smarmy douche. Maybe. Grah.

http://littleadvances.com/2010/07/01/why-we-hate-pitchfork/

Just found this blog article, basically sums up what has been said here

obnoxious american - January 30, 2012 reply

it's fun to hear boers and bernstein shit all over press conferences.

sooo after numerous recs from various parties, i started Homeland

i’m 9 episodes in. and i like it, but i really think there’s a lot of missed opportunity. i was hoping it would build on the (few) good episodes of Rubicon, but it really hasn’t. the realism isn’t there.

colintj - January 30, 2012 reply

What's your least favorite board game?

Mine my be checkers.

Monopoly

I imagine its still got fans, but it’s seriously painful. The setup is a pain for the banker, the rulebook is long, and hard to remember, and the game itself takes like 90 minutes.

If everyone has to create house rules to make a game playable, maybe it wasnt that well thought out. I dunno, maybe it was fun in the 50s.

Also, Mouse Trap because it never works

I love Monopoly.

Agree on Mouse Trap. Always a let down.

Love Monopoly,

especially with kids – they argue like it means something.

Candyland is a nightmare. What a piece of shit. You pay for college and all you make is an extra $40K over a hairdresser? WTF message is THAT? And young kids think you are supposed to give them CANDY when they play? Horseshit game.

Only if you play in the van.

South Side Expat - January 31, 2012 reply

Candyland and hairdressers? WTF?

maybe he talkin bout LIFE

but LIFE is fucking awesome so he mustn’t be.

I think he had a stroke.

Or he plays some combo version of Life and Candyland.

Sorry, I did have a stroke.

All better now. The game is Candylife. ;)

South Side Expat - January 31, 2012 reply

Also- The message about making ONLY 40k more for going to college vs.

being a hairdresser? That message is called realism these days.

maybe with this guy?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_urIiDchfsDk/Spo-anMqBqI/AAAAAAAAAQk/PZcksLUtL04/s320/gump3.jpg

This comment is fucking hilarious.

Thanks, wu.

Who? Who are you?

Where are my teeth?

The trick is treating Monopoly like it's a poker night.

Back when all of my childhood friends still lived in Plainfield, we would routinely get together and drink while playing Monopoly. Makes you enjoy the the two hours.

Hate it.

And then everyone gets pissed off when someone owns a bunch of prime properties with multiple hotels and they have to pay $2,000 rent which wipes them out.

So, sooo superior to Monopoly, is Settlers of Catan.

http://www.catan.com/

Great times.

I need wood. anyone have wood? I have sheep and I need wood.

Ticket to Ride and Risk are probably the two best board games

I used to like Stratego when i was a kid.

yah... stratego is one of my favorites.

All Star Baseball was a classic. always enjoyed Sorry. Bargain Hunter was kind of cool as was Careers. Clue is always good.

i always thought Life was a crappy game. Risk was ok but i don't know if i ever actually finished a game.

i liked monopoly too.

what did I just say!

that you have incredibly bad taste in board games? lol

the spinner alone was magical.

plus it had 100k bills? CMON

I skipped college all the time.

Should have remembered those life lessons.

Yinka Double Dare - January 31, 2012 reply

After a while with Stratego we'd get bored

So we’d play on occasion with the “bomb on wheels” or “walking bomb”

stratego!

Ticket to Ride was fun, but yeah. Risk ftw.

Risk is the best.

there should be a RiskWithFriends App

but there is an app called Strategery that is damn close, everyone should probably purchase for 1.99

i am getting that now

Yinka Double Dare - February 2, 2012 reply

Warfish.net is basically online Risk

And there’s a ton of other user-created boards. Currently invite-only though (sorta like Gmail used to be).

stratego still gets played at my dad's house from time to time. solid game.

I have ore.

I played it one night. Didn’t stand much of a chance, because everybody else had played it often. Still, not bad.

Jim Margalus - January 31, 2012 reply

I want to check this out; kids were playing over Christmas.

we do this except with risk

and we have our own modified rules of risk too, the original way takes too long and incites too many fistfights

As long as people aren't idiots, Risk doesn't take that long.

Same with Monopoly.

would idiots entail drinking and smoking weed while playing Risk

because you can call me guilty…in the dorms we used to have games that would take two days

this

Yep. It's all about pacing.

As in, don’t take 5 minutes every turn.

the main rule change we have is every set you turn in gets you 8 troops

no increasing troops amounts. otherwise theres 200 versus150 fighting for Ural and the rolling takes 15 minutes.

If you only get 8 troops per turn, you're not even playing Risk any more.

my risk blitz is unstoppable

I only leave 1 army back to defend and just bum rush with everything else.
the only thing that slows you down is running back into your own territory and having to fortify troops to the front.

e-gus - January 31, 2012 reply

heh I have many memories of giant armies just eating up continents in one turn

we still play the original version at times.

I also love the cold war army troop buildups

When i was a teenager we used to play a game called Axis & Allies

it was risk on steroids. Anyone else play that one?

what?

no I mean 8 troops per card set turned in. all the risk is deciding the right time to attack and how far to go

This is what I was talking about.

Set a time limit and pretty much every problem goes away.

i have star wars risk

the empire gets to move around the death star and actually destroy planets.

its great.

e-gus - January 31, 2012 reply

awesome

I tried making my own middle earth map once but it wasn’t that great.

You said it man.

I always sabotaged my Monopoly game just to end it sooner. Never bought property, let my sister win every time.

Mouse Trap is the definition of anti-climactic.

Re: Monopoly - I need a ruling.

In an embarrassingly over-competitive game not long ago, my friend – having lost two straight to me – objected to my habit of negotiating trades when it is not my turn. Mind you, I didn’t execute said trades until my turn arrived, just negotiate. He was salty because he’d be trying to make a deal with somebody and I would jump in and make a better offer to block him.

What’s the consensus? (Beyond that we’re obviously dicks for playing the game so over-competitively.)

Negotiating can happen at all times.

wouldn't this then also imply chess, which only takes longer to get to that fleeting joy?

greenlight - January 31, 2012 reply

Fuck no.

Chess at least has the fun of pieces getting different moves.

Winning at chess is far more satisfying because it actually takes some tactics and thought

Even when you beat an inferior player it is satisfying. Checkers is like playing a larger version of tic-tac-toe

I am not looking forward to the day when my son wants to play me in checkers

I mean, it’ll be fun because he is my son but checkers is just tedious.

Your face is just tedious.

So you enjoy playing checkers?

your face is checkers

How...about...a...nice...game...of...chess?

nah

global thermonuclear war, please

Indeed.

did you guys see the ferris buehler commercial for the super bowl?

i was kind of hoping they’d make a movie where he ditches work/wife/kids and has a good time. eh maybe you shouldn’t mess with classics.

obnoxious american - February 1, 2012 reply

that commercial was awful.

thatshortkid - January 31, 2012 reply

it was funny when that monkey smoked cigarettes.

It's an awful game.

play checkers online against good players. you'll find out checkers ain't exactly a chump game.

Why would I want to do that?

you said tactics and thought makes chess enjoyable. play against an experienced checkers player and you'll need those attributes.

it's better if you play for uffin

hoodlight - January 31, 2012 reply

Thanks for the suggestion on "Rising Damp".

Quite funny. I’d put “Yes, Minister” ahead of it, but still excellent. Any other Brit-coms that you would recommend?

FlyingSpaghettiMonster - February 5, 2012 via mobile reply

black adder (though not the first series)

father ted and the i.t. crowd
the mighty boosh
garth merenghi’s darkplace
spaced

craigws - February 5, 2012 reply

Father Ted is now on Netflix.

It get’s your rec?

That carries weight.

father ted is probably my favourite sitcom that isn't called the simpsons.

Added to the instant queue.

lemme know what you think of it,

i’ll be interested, as although it is adored by every british/irish person i have known to watch it, it has had some mixed responses from americans i know. might be a cultural thing, it is very very silly.

It's been a very UK weekend on Netflix for me.

Trainspotting, The Escapist, now Father Ted.

Monday is the weekend, huh?

I miss academia.

Rhubarb - February 6, 2012 reply

I have a seven day weekend.

have you read trainspotting?

the book, as ever, is better than the movie. language can be kinda impenetrable though.

Have not.

Aren’t the chapters in Spud and Begbie’s voices written phonetically?

think so. it has been a while since i read it.

i remember sick boy’s chapters involve conversations between him and sean connery.

Is 'Peep Show' worth watching?

It has appeared in my recommendations list.

3E8 - February 6, 2012 reply

it is, though you'll cringe a lot.

but it isn’t quite as cover your eyes, cover your ears, la-la-la-can’t hear you-la-la-la as the british office. i think i watched the first five series over the course of two days. the whole idea of it and the way it is filmed is quite interesting, if nothing else.

FlyingSpaghettiMonster - February 6, 2012 reply

Couldn't agree more on Black Adder (I even like the first series).

Father Ted is next on the list. Thanks!

i could never play Sorry without getting in a fight with my brother

for some reason.

for some reason?

maybe something to do with your level of calm, sir.

Militant ginger.

Dug Sorry,

Boggle, all those games you could “put back” your opponent.

One day we will share favorite card games.

re: putbacks

I have seen some epic comebacks in Trouble

But those pop-domes for the dice? Lame.

i used to play Canasta with my grandma and older aunts.

i enjoyed it.

Good god fruity p.

just wait til we are in the nursing home together. i'll kick your ass in it. lol

My grandma taught me Canasta; we'd stay up late playing when I was a kid.

Great memories. Totally beats Rummy 500, which we’d played when I was a younger kid.

yah my grandma died a little over a year ago... i mentioned playing canasta as one of my favorite memories of her

yeah i didn't particularly enjoy that "put back" mechanic

that was probably the core issue for me.

euchre!

Euchre is for St. Louis

Spades is for Chicago

Racist.

my students taught me how to play spades. i got through many bus lines because of that game.

my schools suggestion of “silent reading” during bus line was insane. never worked. spades on the other hand kept them quiet usually.

i would've thought you'd go with Wisconsin

Euchre is fun, in college all the southern people played it

I just prefer spades

Spades and Hearts

almost got me kicked out of high school. Played for hours at school my jr. year and never went to class. Hung out in the student smoking room. Those were the days.

South Side Expat - January 31, 2012 reply

used to play Euchre quite a bit down in Chambana.

yes where I learned as well!

I learned in Normington-Bloomal

South Side Expat - February 1, 2012 reply

I just learned how to play something called Pitch.

U-God - February 1, 2012 reply

layup.

hell yeah put backs

draw 4, bitch.
now draw 2.
now skip.
now draw 2 again.
now draw 4. UNO
I win.

Love UNO and Yahtzee

I got Yahtzee, bitches! 50 points…booya!

Uno is the best.

Except when your Mom is Sicilian and takes every Draw 2 or 4 personally and would kill you if she could.

That makes it even better.

Candyland-worst ever

I love my daughter, I really do. But this game killed me every damned time we played. Now, it’s been many years but iirc you’d get near the end of the game & the bitch “Queen Frostine” card would come up & send you back to the start. To which you could reset the clock for one hour & begin…AGAIN. Horrible, boring game.

Chutes and Ladders is kind of messed up like that too

My daughter would say “just one game,” and you didn’t know if it would be a 5 min game, or you’d be caught in a never-ending loop.

those were both great games when you take a marker and scratch out those last bits.

I want to play right now!

snakes & ladders, ta very much.

is it as preachy as C 'n L?

“Oh, sweep the floor and you go to the movies, but ride your bike with no hands, and BOOM broken arm”

Didn't seer this before my post above,

but wholeheartedly agree, 112.

112? Haven't seen that since 8th grade! hehe. No prob man.

Since all the worst games have been mentioned

has anyone played Ticket To Ride? That game is fun and has good replay value. You compete to build the strongest railroad system across a continent. There is strategy and chance involved, but more of the former. Reminiscent of Risk, but a game could be completed in under an hour.

3E8 - January 31, 2012 reply

durr

didn’t see before commenting above

I've got a ticket to ride

but she don’t care.

i'm not sure what my least favorite is

but i do love me some trivial pursuit.

thatshortkid - January 31, 2012 reply

agreed, though the older versions of the game are better.

too many easy/the o.c.-based questions in the newer ones.

just found out my roommate has star wars TP.

i foresee some shitfaced trivia nerdery (as opposed to other forms of shitfaced nerdery) at some point in the future.

thatshortkid - January 31, 2012 reply

I got the "Know it all" set of cards for TP

They are newer and fairly challenging.

I also have the Baby Boomer set from the 80’s. Pretty much every history question in that set is Nixon, Watergate, or some other person involved with Watergate.

I love the bonus sets. Although playing with the orginal cards from 1982 is a totally different challenge now. Trivia from 30 years ago is well, really trivial.

zevsenesca - February 1, 2012 reply

Playing SNES Family Fued is the same way.

U-God - February 1, 2012 reply

i recently bought a game called 'zero' to play with the in-laws.

they have a question they have asked a bunch of people, like ‘name each actor that has played james bond’ or ‘name the five longest rivers in the world’ and you get points for the least popular answer. tests the trivia knowledge pretty well.
incidentally, i won the day with ‘david niven’ for the bond one.

First Amazon bridge to open world’s greatest rainforest to development

Without cheating:

James Bondses: Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan, Daniel Craig/ Longest rivers: 1.Nile 2.Amazon 3.Mississippi. I’m stumped. How ’bout 4.Rio Grande 5. Volga ? I will now check my answers.

oahu420 - February 1, 2012 reply

I guess the Rio Grande isn't really that grande coming in at #27

I never heard of #5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_by_length

oahu420 - February 1, 2012 reply

huh, the more you know

At no point is the Amazon crossed by a bridge.4 This is not because of its huge dimensions; in fact, for most of its length (which is 4,080 miles), the Amazon’s width is well within the capability of modern engineers to bridge. However, the bulk of the river flows through tropical rainforest, where there are few roads or cities, limiting the need for crossings.

I find it hard to believe there isn’t some kinda rope bridge or something though.

Trooper - February 1, 2012 reply

heh

Trooper - February 1, 2012 reply

A person can learn a lot here at the University of the Right Rail.

oahu420 - February 1, 2012 reply

it turns out the narrowest stretch of the amazon is 1 mile!

if not for this place I would continue to think things like rope bridges could span the amazon.

Trooper - February 1, 2012 reply

saw baby saw!

Rhubarb - February 1, 2012 reply

I guessed Danube (wrongly)

The Yellow River is just a piss away from top 5.

lastof12 - February 1, 2012 reply

missed out on george lazenby - on her majesty's secret service (which has an awesome louis armstrong song in it)

timothy dalton – the living daylights & a license to kill (in which bond’s american buddy felix gets fed to a shark, plus a young benicio del toro).
david niven – casino royale (the version that had woody allen in it).

craigws - February 1, 2012 reply

not responding to you for any particular reason. just not sure where else to put this but, and this may or may not surprise anyone, i had this game as a youth:

BuehrleMan - January 31, 2012 reply

that is glorious.

You never got around to playing it?

oh i played it alright.

it must not have been educational enough though because i am getting eaten for lunch, they are eating my lunch, and i am getting my ass handed to me.

BuehrleMan - February 1, 2012 reply

I love

Marx’ detachable floating head. That’s how comrade wins his arguments against the proletariat…

zevsenesca - February 1, 2012 reply

i must have one.

thatshortkid - February 1, 2012 reply

I'd agree with checkers

but only because i’ve never ever beaten my dad in that game

That was his strategy to deter you from ever wanting to play it, he probably taunts you too

the marbles store has some good stuff. i pop in there once or twice a year to see what's new.

been playing quirkle lately. fun game and doesn’t become unplayable when drunk.

always a fan of dominoes too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15pnlvyPHSQ

Blake Griffin just ate Kendrick Perkins' soul.

Impressive.

Can a man have a “butter face”?

Butthisface.

Shit, that didn't look quite right.

It works on a couple levels, though.

Butt his face!
As in, his face is a butt.

But, this face!
As in, I’d totally have sex on top of that, but…this face!

That's what I meant.

AND YES, YES A MAN CAN!

Gosh, I hope I can get to that Clippers game on Thursday after all...

Is this Sammy Davis, Jr.?

I'd say most pro athletes fit that bill.

Fairly ugly with a great body?

I don’t know, I’d think most athletes are at least “average” with a great body during their playing days. Most guys aren’t Don Mossi ugly.

LOL re: Mossi.

OPOS. How about Ronnie Karkovice?

It’s not your fault, son. It’s not your fault.

the nba has got to be the ugliest league out there.

the guys who don’t seem ghastly are just less hideous than their teammates.

you're missing a "w" in your subject line

never heard of it.

$5

e-gus - January 31, 2012 reply

the real question is

would you rather watch the wnba or soccer?

BuehrleMan - January 31, 2012 reply

Jerry Owens

obnoxious american - February 1, 2012 reply

that's not even a question

and i can’t even watch soccer.

i don't understand this response, grammatically and logically

Jack M - February 1, 2012 reply

...

obnoxious american - February 1, 2012 reply

I'd go with hockey players since they are ugly and then they get physically destroyed on a nightly basis.

much like tp's mother.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tom_verducci/01/31/curt.schilling/index.html?sct=mlb_t11_a0

Curt Schilling has a new video game!

And he talks about stuff he has an opinion on – in other words, everything!

winningugly - February 1, 2012 reply

Last stop for the Soul Train

RIP Don Cornelius

e-gus - February 1, 2012 reply

This is really sad news

I loved that show as a kid. It was so much better than American Bandstand (They were shown back to back right after Sat. morning cartoons.) Just very sad to hear. Dang.

zevsenesca - February 1, 2012 reply

in case you've forgotten, the "how do you feel about the White Sox?" poll closes today

greenlight - February 1, 2012 reply

think the dodgers-giants rivalry has security issues?

at least 73 dead at egyptian soccer match

holy christ.

BuehrleMan - February 1, 2012 reply

Jim, use a small portion of your SSS earnings

to purchase this.

Uribe Down - February 1, 2012 reply

I'll get up a new RRRR either tonight or tomorrow am, from sunny Los Angeles. With preliminary meth-up details too! Ooooooooh so fancy!

homesickalien - February 1, 2012 reply

Lies! Damned Lies!

South Side Expat - February 3, 2012 reply

new watchmen stuff. oh dear.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/watchmen-prequel-to-explore-character-backstories,68628/

craigws - February 1, 2012 reply

I'm going to try and get to Chicago for another Sox game this year

Looking at the schedule, the first weekend in June with the Mariners in town looks promising

ChiSoxRox - February 1, 2012 reply

so i have a sports fact calendar, and this was todays fact:

The New York Giants and Chicago White Sox play to a 3-3 tie in Cairo, Egypt, in a contest called by darkness after 10 innings. In attendance is Abbas Hilmi II, Khedive (viceroy) of Egypt, who watches with his 43 wives. Tomorrow, photographs will be taken of White Sox and Giants players in front of the Great Sphinx, and a mock game is filmed in from of the Pyramids. The visit to Egypt is a part of a world tour lasting from October 1913 through March 1914. The two clubs also play in Japan, China, the Philippines, Australia, Ceylon, Italy (where Pope Pius X attends), France, and England (with King George V in the stands). The world tour will conclude just in time. By August 1914, Europe will be embroiled in a world war, with Great Britain and France pitted against Germany. THE U.S. will become involved militarily in World War I in April 1917.

I found egypt and england pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/uicdigital/4787862018/in/photostream/

blackoutsox - February 1, 2012 reply

Did Hawk do the broadcast?

tailgater - February 2, 2012 reply

as was the case in XLI, a manning is going to win the super bowl

the oracle of “my projector bulb goes kablooie right before i host a super bowl party” has spoken.

at least this time the oracle (hopefully) allowed me time for overnight shipping. last time the fucker struck the night before.

thatshortkid - February 2, 2012 reply

That is brutal.

I now have a decent second TV that would function as an acceptable backup in such a disaster scenario. Of course, should my 60" plasma commit suicide, I would probably be too distraught to haul the alternate into the living room.

RWShow - February 2, 2012 reply

IT'S A SUPER SUNDAY MIRACLE

just got the delivery notification that my bulb was dropped off and a text from a neighbor that it’s under their safe keeping. aside from a freshly-fucked credit card, the holiday can still go on.

and for this weekend, at maximum light level.

thatshortkid - February 3, 2012 reply

sandlot is on again

e-gus is still smalls.

Trooper - February 2, 2012 reply

facebook hawk made my day when he commented on my sandlot status over the summer

i took a screenshot but that was the old hard drive and is gone :(

blackoutsox - February 2, 2012 reply

so instead of writing my phil (ugh) paper

i made a shitty photoshop of george washington on a tank

blackoutsox - February 2, 2012 reply

I got a massage from a new massage therapist last week

She sent me an email asking how things are feeling. She particularly asked how I liked the glute work. I think she’s coming on to me.

Nordhagen - February 2, 2012 reply

you should pencil her in after every workout:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/02/01/146216300/massage-eases-inflammation-in-worn-out-muscles

thatshortkid - February 2, 2012 reply

I'd totally go pro if I didnt have to work.

Regular massage after workouts would be a dream come true.

Nordhagen - February 2, 2012 reply

"She".

Uh huh.

winningugly - February 2, 2012 reply

she is a woman

And face down on that table, it doesn’t matter. what.

Nordhagen - February 2, 2012 reply

Is her name Susan?

tailgater - February 3, 2012 reply

when they're coming on to you, they say the happy ending is on the house.

MarketMaker - February 2, 2012 reply

i've liked some of the stuff this guy has written... but joe posnanski said this today on twitter

Headline: “A’s, O’s leading suitors for Manny Ramirez.” What would MannyBManny have to do to NOT have suitors? Kill teammates?

no joe… maybe manny would look the other way while his friend gives it to kids in the brown for 9 extra years because you didn’t call the police.

oh wait. then posnanski would be an apologist for him.

what a dickhead.

obnoxious american - February 3, 2012 reply

posnanski is a paterno apologist?

huh.

haha!

MarketMaker - February 3, 2012 reply

Good call, brother.

I’m extremely disappointed in Posnanski’s reaction to the Penn State stuff.

RWShow - February 3, 2012 reply

Also, is Paterno still dead?

If so, it’s still a good day.

RWShow - February 3, 2012 reply

he stood to profit off of everything. i get that. but don't call manny ramirez out for being a bad guy

when the worst thing he did was take steroids and fake an injury. bad teammate? for sure. incredibly terrible guy? not so much.

Exactly.

How soon we all forget the 1 HR, 2 RBI assault he put up for the Sox in 2010!

tailgater - February 3, 2012 reply

i was there for that homer.

and id take him over dunn right now.

no.

you're high. ramirez would not have hit as bad as dunn did.

i didn't say anything about that.

Perhaps not, but at least I don't detest Dunn as a human being.

RWShow - February 3, 2012 reply

what about when manny shoved the red sox 64 year old traveling secretary to the ground

or the time, about five months ago, that he was arrested for assaulting his wife?

i’m going to stick with my theory that he is a terrible person.

she must've had it coming.

not really funny.

just admit he’s a jackass.

21 Rules of Surviving a Super Bowl Party

yeah Ken

That was pretty stupid to say

Hazymania - February 3, 2012 reply

this was awful.

craigws - February 3, 2012 reply

good lord. relax!

KenWo4LiFe - February 4, 2012 reply

don't get the white people worked up. no joking around.

MarketMaker - February 4, 2012 reply

I hate posting something new to the RRRR when there is a new RRRR rumored to "drop" at any moment

Because I will post the best thing ever, and then 4 seconds later, it gets relegated.

Fine, I’m gonna do it anyway, and then repost it in the next RRRR, so that I can youdaman myself.

Anyway, I’m a Jason Gay guy (what?), and his latest column is typically awesome:

Nordhagen - February 3, 2012 reply

Pretty sure the ETA on a new RRRR is between Now and Never

Rhubarb - February 3, 2012 reply

to be fair, it must be difficult to concentrate being in such vicinity to blake griffin.

thatshortkid - February 3, 2012 reply

to be fair to me

I did say it could happen ‘now’…although this is the last time I’ll open this thread on my work PC because dis bitch to big.

Rhubarb - February 3, 2012 reply

I'm having a good night

I introduced the GF to Pinterest last weekend and now she’s obsessed. I’ve responded by saying “I’d pin that” whenever I see an attractive woman.

Now she’s got me watching Say Yes to the Dress on TLC and I’ve taken to twitter, punching in the SYTTD hashtag and gawking at all the desperate spinsters and angsty teenagers.

I’m thinking of writing a followup to Ice Cube’s Very Good Day.

The Cheat - February 3, 2012 reply

you poor soul

e-gus - February 4, 2012 reply

holy christ.

thatshortkid - February 4, 2012 reply

he needs to get back in that basement.

MarketMaker - February 4, 2012 reply

Anal rape is preferable to that life.

So, sure.

winningugly - February 4, 2012 reply

i don't know what any of this is, but i know it isn't good.

obnoxious american - February 6, 2012 reply

overslept, missed the arsenal game.

checked my phone, wait, you’re telling me RVP scored a hat-trick, Ox scored a brace, Wenger rested Ramsey, and Walcott assisted two?? And Henry scored in the last seconds??? Get in! what up goal differential!

yep. that's what i'm telling you. also telling you that givet was sent off so blackburn had ten men the entire second half and pretty much gave up.

so i guess what i’m telling you is… calm down.

BuehrleMan - February 4, 2012 reply

can't do it!

even before the send off blackburn looked terrible

i fully admit they’re a shit side. i’m still very excited.

blackburn are pretty rubbish, but have had some good results lately.

craigws - February 4, 2012 reply

the front three for arsenal looked very good.

if walcott could actually sustain some form for the rest of the season i can see them qualifying for the champions league.

craigws - February 4, 2012 reply

yes! chamberlain is such a player.

and gervinho coming back soon, sagna back, gibbs soon to be back, things are looking good! everyone’s freaking out but only 2 points off 4th place at the moment. no reason they can’t make a run in CL / FA Cup either.

it's already over.

come on.

colintj - February 4, 2012 reply

i hope they get it over chelsea.

craigws - February 5, 2012 reply

whoa i guess i didn't realize what the table looked like

some reason i was under the impression Arsenal were like 8 pts out. obvs they’re not done.

champions league against milan is going to be very interesting to.

both milan and arsenal have some really tough games coming up with milan’s mostly before their first meetup and arsenal’s in between their two games. (milan has to play three very tough games between today and the arsenal game on feb 15. (they have to play the team in 1st in serie A (juventus) the team in third (udinese) then they play napoli) arsenal has one game in that time (sunderland).

also going to be rooting big time for napoli to destroy chelsea.

BuehrleMan - February 5, 2012 reply

ugh.

too.

BuehrleMan - February 5, 2012 reply

check your facts, colin.

Jack M - February 5, 2012 reply

Arsenal's sched the rest of the way

is much harder than Chelsea’s fwiw

i'd like to see your reasoning behind that statement.

they both play spurs and newcastle at home. they both play liverpool away. they both play man city but arsenal will be at home and chelsea will be away. they play each other and arsenal will be at home.

the rest is pretty much a toss up though two of chelsea’s last three games will be against teams very likely to be battling to stay up while the three teams arsenal will play most likely will not, so you could look at those in two different ways.

BuehrleMan - February 5, 2012 reply

well damnit maybe i just know absolutely nothing.

i don’t know what i read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football

the guardian's football coverage is pretty good.

i believe buehrleman has recommended the podcast before.

i'm up to about 6 podcasts that i listen to.

i really like “men in blazers” who have a podcast on grantland (they also have an hour long show on sirius/xm every monday and friday at 8 am central time and replayed the following hour. for some reason they played last monday’s show this morning instead of a new one. still fuming about that.). i also listen to bbc five live football daily pretty often. i listen to epl talk but often don’t like it too much and one of the guys on there has one of the most irritating voices i’ve ever heard.

BuehrleMan - February 6, 2012 reply

This is about as close to an admission of being wrong that I have ever seen out of you

Rhubarb - February 6, 2012 reply

In person he is far more willing to admit things.

When he's naked and vulnerable.

So I hear.

winningugly - February 6, 2012 reply

Clearly the implication.

really?

maybe that’s b/c i write w/ a lot of qualifications? i feel like i own up to being wrong when i’m wrong.

colintj - February 6, 2012 reply

Even now! No!

Uribe Down - February 6, 2012 reply

This is so fantastic.

Rage, rage, against the dying of the light, colin!!!

winningugly - February 7, 2012 reply

plus the injury crisis abating, etc.

though wilshere setback suckkkkkkks.

Jack M - February 6, 2012 reply

Summit Brewing Co. Unchained Black Ale

Yowza! Got two growlers of Dreadnaught too. Go bulls.

Rhubarb - February 4, 2012 reply

black ale as in

black ipa?

colintj - February 4, 2012 reply

As in, that's the name of it.

Uribe Down - February 5, 2012 reply

tis

but technically yes, I actually like it better than New Glarus Black Top (Black IPA)…I got it at Woodmans. It is fantastic. I think Black IPA’s might be my favorite beer. Te dark taste with hops over it and high carbonation is a great combo for me.

Rhubarb - February 5, 2012 reply

yeah i know

just wondering about the beer type

Mmm, Dreadnaught.

I found a place that carries Zombie Dust from time to time, one of the best beers I’ve ever tasted. They had some on Friday night, but I didn’t make it out and it’s gotta be gone by now. I tried on Friday morning but it hadn’t arrived yet. Was I late to work on Friday because of a beer hunt? Yes. You better believe I’m following them on Twitter now, too.

Uribe Down - February 5, 2012 reply

Being that I don't live in Chicago I have never had FFF on tap

If you ever hear about Pliny the Younger at a tavern downtown let me know. Dreadnaught is great though. I am a hop guy.

Rhubarb - February 5, 2012 reply

You need to get to their brew pub in Munster, Indiana.

Awesome beers, awesome food. Worth the drive, worth the wait times. Pretty sure FFF is my second favorite brewery now. May even be closing in on Great Lakes.

Uribe Down - February 5, 2012 reply

ZD is fantastic.